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Green Bay Gamblers roster,
Here is the press release from the Vernon Vipers website,
Cleaves played parts of two seasons with the 2023-24 Vernon Vipers and the 2024-25 Vernon Vipers. Cleaves started the 2023-24 season with the Vernon Vipers, played in 6 games before returning to his high school team for the remainder of the 2023-24 season. Cleaves committed to the Vernon Vipers January 17th 2024 for the 2024-25 season. Cleaves has committed to Dartmouth College for the 2025-26 season. In 35 games with the Vipers, Cleaves collected (3-goals-13-assists-16-points).
Cooper Cleaves Player Profile:
8 comments:
What's the over under on how many more players are gone by the end of the Xmas break. I say 4
When key people leave businesses to join other organizations it is fairly common to conduct "exit surveys", sometimes anonymously. ie. ask Why are you leaving? Why you are not happy? What does the new organization offer that we do not? In what way are we falling short of your expectations when you committed to come? I am sure individual team may not want to hear negative comments regarding their team but I would think the BCHL would be very interested. This is a very trying time for the BCHL and it may prove significant to hear why the mass exodus, it is not solely due to the NCAA rule change. The league needs stability to continue to be a good choice for players eyeing a path to the NCAA. Why is there such a retention problem in some markets?
I’ve heard from several sources that at least some of the players that left were promised opportunities and roles they were never given. It just makes no sense to sign guys and then relegate them to the stands or end of the bench and not expect they will seek an opportunity elsewhere. All before they were given a chance to play. Shows the incompetence of the staff that they expected guys to sit for the season and remain loyal. And if they don’t think that prospects are watching this nonsense unfold and scratching Vernon off their lists, they are absolutely out to lunch.
So will the delusional head coach print a retraction for the Castanet interview? Of course not, spin, spin, spin the story. Cooper realized too late what Trey Taylor did when he bolted to the USHL for his final year: this new ownership is a complete joke. Despite what another person posted there is no reason for MULTIPLE DOWN years. There IS NO DRAFT in this league, if you scout and coach well your team should always be in the mix.
Jr hockey teams need to be better than what has been happening to athletes. The turnover and transactions are crazy. Everyone trying to make a change and find a flashy new toy. How about you bring in and keep the players you have recruited and continue to work and develop them?
For the day traders out there, do better. Players work hard their entire lives to get an opportunity to play Jr hockey. If you’ve done your homework on a player and you bring them in, you should be able to work with them and continue to develop them.
To me throwing them aside is not a tough look on them it’s a tough look on your inability to develop players and therefore you shouldn’t be coaching jr hockey because after all we are trying to develop kids into young men and teach them the right way to do things.
Dropping players after 2-3 weeks is crazy. Especially since some of these players may have turned down other opportunities to go there and now they are at home trying to figure out what to do.
I would rather work with the players that hopefully I did my homework on, recruit and bring in to the organization then just send them home to find a new team.
Exactly, Ryan, very well said. What you are referring to is "Integrity" and it is sadly lacking.
These young men are recruited, make a commitment and yet there is very little commitment in return. They are expected to perform immediately which is difficult in a new location, new living situations (billets), with new team mates, new line mates changing all the time and being a long way away from their families and support groups. Heck, some must even adjust to living in a new country. Please start treating them with respect!
Sounds like the used car salesman taught his staff how to sell lemons...
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